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‘Ted Lasso’ Co-Creator Bill Lawrence On The Show’s Golden Globe Nominations And Allen Iverson Inspiration

The Golden Globe nominations were announced today and, in some completely unsurprising news for anyone who’s watched (or re-watched) Ted Lasso this year, the sentimental sports comedy scored big.

Creator and star Jason Sudeikis nabbed an acting nom while the show itself got some love in the Best TV Comedy category. With the awards recognition, it felt like a good time to chat with show co-creator Bill Lawrence – about the industry love, yes but more importantly, about the show’s heart, why fans are loving it, and where it’s going in season two.

And, obviously, that Allen Iverson speech.

Congratulations on the nominations. They’re so well deserved, and I know Twitter agrees with me. Did you guys have a gut feeling you might get recognized, just because of all of the fan love?

[laughs] It’d be so un-Ted Lasso if we were all sitting around talking about what awards we hope we get. I think Jason would be the first one to tell you that it wouldn’t be something that Ted himself was that concerned with. I’m sure it sounds like a cliche, but this is not a show where we’re really tracking any of these things. I mean, I forgot that this was happening and got a call this morning. I’m lucky enough to be here in L.A. Jason, he’s running the ship. Those guys are over there shooting the fourth episode now in London and in the middle of production. There’s still COVID stuff out there. So I think everybody was tickled and happy today, but what the coolest thing for us has been tracking social media, getting to see people’s reactions to the show in real-time from when we launched it to now. That’s been super fun and we’re crazy grateful for it because we had no idea how the show would be received.

There are other feel-good comedies out there. You’re nominated against some of them. What makes Ted Lasso stand apart?

All I can tell you is that when we first did the show, there wasn’t a quarantine or pandemic or anything, but we did talk a lot about how cynical and negative and dark the discourse has gotten, not only with politics but on social media. We talked about in the writer’s room how, if any of us met Ted Lasso in real life, I mean if I did, I would at first be like, “Oh, in a couple of weeks, this person will reveal himself to be an asshole.” And then when they actually turned out to be that kind and empathetic and forgiving and optimistic and hopeful and all those things — then you kind of have to take a look at yourself. We didn’t know at all how it would be received or why it is being well received, but, as a group, we kind of felt like it was therapeutic to work on. So to be honest, that was enough. We were tickled that people dug it, but just doing the show and getting to be around that attitude and writing about it and working around people that felt that way was why [we did it.]

Do you think that trend of heart-felt comedy is going to continue now, because of streaming?

TV moves in waves. I think the coolest thing about all these platforms for different shows is there are a lot of genre busters out there. I think if you had seen the initial videos, it was intentionally slapstick-y and sketch-like. I think we got to sneak up on people a little bit and it helped us be a little deeper and a little more emotionally resonant than maybe what they saw coming.

The character of Ted Lasso changed from those early commercials to what we see on the show. How did Jason pitch him to you?

[To see] Jason get nominated for Best Actor, I think it’s incredibly well-deserved. He’s really crushing it. But it makes people think he’s just the actor. He is Larry David on this. He’s head writer, he’s the actor, he’s the executive producer. So he is wearing a ton of hats. I’m lucky that he suckered me in because I was chasing him to do some other show and he talked about how Ted Lasso could be something. I’d seen those commercials. They’re super funny, but very sketch-like and broad. He knew from the start he’s like, “I want to turn that guy into a character with a lot of emotional pathos in his life and some real emotional depth [with] people who underestimate him.” So he knew ahead of time that dude had all those levels and it was what made it really interesting for me to get in and write and be involved with.

Can we talk about the Allen Iverson locker room speech, because we all know that’s what cinched this nomination for you guys.

That was 100 percent Jason Sudeikis. He insisted on it. And here’s what a good guy he is: he didn’t rub it in my face. In editing, I tried to cut it down and I’m like, “We don’t need all of this.” And he was adamant and really passionate about it, how he wrote it and performed it. The testament to his kindness is as we get to watch people on social media love that scene and react to it, he hasn’t once texted or emailed any “I told you so” messages. He hasn’t even forwarded a tweet to me; you know what I mean? Were it not for him, that would be on the cutting room floor.

Do you have any other famous sports rants you want to weave into the show now?

[laughs] It’s hard not to go online and watch all those. There was a great one with that guy talking about making the playoffs — Colts coach, Jim Mora, I think.

The show tackles male friendship in a really refreshing way. Is that intentional, or just a by-product of who the character is?

It’s a combo. I mean, it’s something we talked a lot about with the Diamond Dogs, how they would interact. Maybe I’m just way too optimistic, that this is a portrayal of a huge percentage of male friendships. I always attach it to Zach Braff and Donald Faison, who are still best friends and doing a successful podcast together because their male friendship on Scrubs back in the day, it translated because it was real. It was how those two guys really interacted with each other on a day-to-day basis. So I guess I’m saying I might be an eternal optimist, but I believe male friendships like this aren’t a rarity. Maybe they’re just a rarity on television.

Where does Ted Lasso go from here?

Even before we brought the writing staff on, we had a story we wanted to tell. We already know the beginning, middle, and end. They’re off shooting the middle right now. As somebody who selfishly loves the show and enjoys the group that I get to work with, of course I hope that eight years from now that you and I are on a call chatting, “So Ted’s coaching an ice hockey team now back in the States.” And I’d be like, “Yeah, we’re really excited about it.” But I certainly know the beginning, middle, and end of the story we’re telling now.

When he starts enjoying English breakfast tea, is that the end? His full-circle moment?

That’d be a bad sign. The first time he takes a sip and thinks it’s delicious, I’m sure the show will be over.

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Rhea Perlman And Director Kate Tsang On Their Film, ‘Marvelous and the Black Hole’

One of the first Sundance movies that caught my eye was Marvelous and the Black Hole, admittedly because of the casting of Rhea Perlman, because that just seems like an inspired choice. Perlman plays Margot, a magician and mentor, of sorts, to Sammy (Miya Cech), a teenager who is having a rough time both at school and at home, but has taken a liking to magic.

Director Kate Tsang cast Perlman because she needed someone who was not “bubbly and soft,” and, no, when we think of Perlman, especially the characters she’s played over the years, those two words don’t appear much. Ahead, Tsang and Perlman explain how this Sundance hit all came together. (Also, I couldn’t resist asking Perlman a question about Cheers that I’ve been wondering about since the 1980s. Specifically, this very weird incident when an episode of St. Elsewhere was filmed on the Cheers set. It’s just the oddest thing. Anyway, Perlman explains what happened ahead.)

How did you two come together? Did you know each other at all before?

Rhea Perlman: Well, I got a call actually from a mutual friend, a director I had worked with, and she said, “My friend, Kate, wants you to do her movie. Do it.” And then I got the movie sent to me by my agents, out of the blue, and I loved it. I mean, I just loved the script. I loved the idea of playing a magician and with this girl as my partner. Well, not my partner, but you know what I mean. And I hadn’t met Kate, but I saw her short that won a lot of prizes, and well-deserved. She’s so creative. And then we met. That was it.

What made you decide, oh, I’m in?

Perlman: Well, it’s a very original story. It’s a coming of age story. And it’s about problems that some people have with parents and with acting out in anger and frustration and self-destruction. And the themes were very universal, but the actual characters were very individual. And, so, I felt like it just had the potential to be a really moving and wonderful movie. And I hope that’s what people think it is.

Kate, When you were casting this, why did you think of Rhea Perlman?

Kate Tsang: So, because Sammy is such a sort of closed off, angry teenager, I knew that the character who could get through to her couldn’t be somebody bubbly and soft. They had to speak on her level. And Rhea is somebody who has grit. But also warmth. And, so, I just knew I really wanted to reach out to Rhea with this. And I’m so, so glad that she said yes.

Rhea, do you have any background in magic? Did you have to learn these tricks, or this movie magic?

Perlman: I had to learn! I thought for sure, before I met Kate, that this was going to all be somebody else’s hands. It would all be substituted by a real magician and I’d just be there for the acting. But, no, it all had to be learned. And I had an amazing tutor. And I have incredible respect now for magicians, which I’ve always loved magic. But as an audience, because I’m very easy to fool. I mean, I really am. And I love that. I love that feeling. But the amount of work that goes into learning any trick, any particular trick, is just incredibly time consuming. And they pretty much have to work at it all day long, every day of their life. And so just learning how to hide a card, or a ball, or anything, even for little tiny kids, that it’s incredible. But, no, I didn’t know any tricks beforehand.

As you were saying that, this actually just popped in my head. But are you more appreciative now of the Harry the Hat episodes of Cheers? When Harry Anderson would come on and do those tricks?

Perlman: I loved Harry Anderson. And I knew he was a great magician. Yeah, those are great. I should actually go back and watch a couple of them.

Well, now you can do tricks at parties, if we ever have parties again.

Perlman: [Laughs] I’ll say yes, but I’m sure that I won’t ever do tricks at parties. But yeah, I’ll do a few tricks at the next party.

Kate, was this movie supposed to premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival, and then the whole world collapsed and now you’re in Sundance? Do I have that right?

Tsang: So my producer, Carolyn Mao and I, were the winners of this incredible grant from Tribeca Film Institute. And part of that amazing award is that you have a year to make your film. And at the end of it, it debuts at Tribeca Film Festival. And we were on track, trying to finish our film, rushing to finish it in time for the premiere, when everything shut down. So the premiere was canceled. And of course, it was very disappointing, but it gave us the time to sort of finesse our film and take a little bit more time with it. So getting into Sundance is definitely the silver lining of what happened.

Are parts of this story from things that happened to you?

Tsang: Yeah, this story was inspired by my relationship with my grandfather growing up. My parents got divorced, and I was bounced back and forth between their homes in Northern California and Hong Kong. And I was a very depressed and isolated feeling kind of kid. And when I was in Northern California, my grandfather came to raise me. And he could see I was really struggling. And he reached out to me. He became the lifeline I needed, the confidant that I needed, my friend. And I also had a lot of sleeping issues. I had insomnia. And I would have nightmares when I did fall asleep. So he would tell me bedtime stories. And it was only later on that I realized that these stories he told me were actually his own horrifying experiences with the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong that he had transformed into these cathartic fairytales. So he taught me the power of channeling pain into something beautiful or powerful. And that’s the same lesson that Margot teaches Sammy.

Did Miya know who Rhea was? Like, “oh, you’re one of the most well-known actors that has ever been on television”?

Perlman: I never got that feeling, like I was a big celebrity to her or something. But I felt very connected to her, as a young girl. I just felt like she was very open and incredibly professional and also up for fun. She was easy to hang out with. Her mom would come with her to the set, and to my house, when we first were practicing some magic together. And she was also great. I loved her. I love her. Yeah. I think that I’m very close with my family and I think she is too, even though she works away from them, some of the time, or a lot of the time. I think family is important to her. And it’s very important to me and it worked out great.

What did you guys do for fun?

Perlman: Like a kid, she wants to do silly things like fooling around with the dogs. And when we were learning to throw confetti in the air, in a certain way, that was sort of like, yeah, this is the best part of the day.

At this point in your career, what are you looking for? You’re Rhea Perlman, I feel you don’t have to do anything if you don’t want to.

Perlman: I really like to work. I really like to act. And having been especially not working very much, or hardly at all, except for doing voice work during this whole pandemic … I’ve been doing a voice on an animated show. So it feeds me to work, as an actor. So, when something comes along, that isn’t just thoughtless, it’s just a gift. I feel like it’s a gift. I love it. And to that end, about the story of Margot, my character, there is some of that grandfather story in it, because she’s come through a very difficult background herself. We won’t go into that, because most people haven’t seen the movie yet.

It sounds like we’re going to see you a lot once the pandemic ends.

Perlman: Well, I hope so. I’m here. Yeah, I’d love to do a few more things in my life. You know? I mean, look at Ted!

Oh, yeah. He’s on another show already.

Perlman: I mean, he never stops working.

Yeah, I saw him on Seth Meyers last night promoting his new show. He didn’t even take a break.

Perlman: He’s so great. I love him.

Okay, here is my only Cheers question.

Perlman: I hope I know the answer.

Do you remember the time you played Carla on St. Elsewhere. It was an episode of St. Elsewhere and the doctors went to Cheers. I just think that’s one of the weirdest things I’ve ever seen. What even was that?

Perlman: Yes! Well, St. Elsewhere actually came to our bar. Yeah, because they both took place in Boston.

What’s weird about it is you’re insulting them as they’re sitting there. Like you would on a normal episode of Cheers, but there’s no laughter from the audience. So it comes off as really dark.

Perlman: Yeah, it was a very odd time. I mean, I can’t remember it that well. The thing I remember the most about it is you know how there’s different kinds of acting on different shows? That’s sort of a style on a sitcom?

Right…

Perlman: Even though your mic-ed and everything, it’s louder. It’s just kind of a louder, connecting with the live audience. And on St. Elsewhere, it’s like everybody’s just talking calmly, like we’re just here in this cafe. So, there was a very odd dynamic between all of us, even though I like all of those guys.

Right, because they say they work at St. Eligius. And you do a gagging sound and stick your finger in your mouth, but there’s no laughter. And it’s like, oh, wow, that comes off very differently without an audience laughing.

Perlman: I don’t know why they didn’t put it in laugh, because they came to us! There wasn’t any audience there when they came, and they didn’t want to put it in a laugh track.

Well, you have answered my question.

Perlman: That’s hysterical.

‘Marvelous and the Black Hole’ premiered this week at Sundance. You can contact Mike Ryan directly on Twitter.

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Dave Grohl Makes His Pick For Foo Fighters’ ‘Most Accomplished Musician’

Foo Fighters is a band filled with tremendous artists, but the way Dave Grohl sees it, one of them stands out above the others as “the most accomplished musician in the band.” In a new oral history about the group from EW, Grohl said, “Chris [Shiflett] is, without a doubt, the most accomplished musician in the band. I don’t know what would have happened if he hadn’t joined.”

While Shiflett is best known for his work with Foo Fighters (which he joined after the release of 1999’s There Is Nothing Left To Lose), he maintains an active musical presence outside of the band. He has released five albums as part of the supergroup cover band Me First And The Gimme Gimmes, although he has since left the group. He has also put out two albums with his band Jackson United, two more with his band Chris Shiflett & The Dead Peasants, and a pair of solo albums, the latest of which, Hard Lessons, was released in 2019.

Grohl’s praise of Shiflett came as part of him discussing the band’s chemistry and what everybody in the group brings to the table:

“The most important thing in the Foo Fighters world isn’t that you fit in musically, it’s more that you fit in personally or emotionally. If you’re in the Foo Fighters, it’s not because of the way you play your instrument. It’s because of who you are. We have more emotional prerequisites than we do musical prerequisites.

Taylor fits into it because of his love of Queen and Genesis and Yes and Rush. Pat fits in because of his love of early punk rock music and Mariah Carey, which I don’t know if you talked about, but that is his number-one artist of all time. Nate and I come from the same musical background. We were raised by Devo and the B-52s and Oingo Boingo, and then we discovered hardcore punk rock music and fell in love with the Dead Kennedys and Bad Brains and Black Flag. We jumped in vans as teenagers, slept on floors, played squats. So he and I shared a very similar experience — which is important because A, you have the survival skill set, how to make it through Europe on seven dollars a day, but B, you also use those early experiences as reference or foundation so that once you get a van with air conditioning, you’re like, ‘This has power windows? Holy f*cking sh*t! That’s amazing.’

Chris is, without a doubt, the most accomplished musician in the band. I don’t know what would have happened if he hadn’t joined…. And Rami is such a free-floating peace and love wacky f*cking wanderer. It’s like, sarongs and headwraps. And he became part of it, too. He just fit.”

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03 Greedo And Wiz Khalifa Search For ‘Substance’ On A Woozy New Single

Despite being locked up for the better part of the last three years after being sentenced to 20 years in prison for drug and gun offenses in the state of Texas, Watts rapper 03 Greedo is still incredibly releasing new music at a regular clip. His latest is “Substance,” a woozy, R&B-inflected ode to relationships — and yes, drugs — featuring Pittsburgh THC aficionado Wiz Khalifa. While Greedo croons his way through the wobbly, digitized hook, Wiz raps with a bouncy cadence speaking to the track’s subject matter.

The song is accompanied by a trippy, interactive lyrics video that lets fans control the perspective as a CGI Greedo and Wiz drive through a cartoon city and go for a walk with a pack of wolves. It’s a cool presentation for the song that offers fans some consolation for Greedo’s current inability to shoot real music videos for his songs — although he’s found some pretty clever workarounds in the past, as well.

03 had kind of a rough 2020 as a result of his incarceration, contracting COVID-19 — from which he eventually recovered — but he was still able to drop a collaborative project with Ron-Ron the Producer, one of his first and most frequent collaborators. It was just the latest in a long stretch of joint tapes he recorded in a flurry before beginning his sentence, which included projects with DJ Mustard, Travis Barker, and Kenny Beats.

Watch the “Substance” interactive visualizer above.

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Miss Piggy Fans Are Outraged By A Comparison To Wacky QAnon Loving Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene

Oh Twitter, you never, ever stop being strange. Amid all of the Golden Globes ruckus this morning, a true controversy arose when someone decided to stir up dirt about Miss Piggy. More specifically, they compared the lovable pig to incoming Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), a QAnon megafan who’s often seen in MAGA-supporting attire like a “stop the steal” mask. She’s a proud conspiracy theorist who harasses mass-shooting survivors and generally spreads misery around aplenty. So, some hard feelings were to be expected when a Twitter user posted a “Separated at birth?” caption alongside photos of Greene and Piggy with similar attire and styling.

Before too long, Miss Piggy began to (strangely) trend under politics on Twitter.

It’s not a great comparison, of course. It’s meant to outrage somebody, and it worked, but maybe not as intended? Miss Piggy is a beacon of positivity and class. She may not be entirely peaceful, but she wouldn’t hurt anyone and certainly would not help incite an insurrection. Nope, Miss Piggy is “an incomparable legend,” and people are offended that someone suggested that this is a “slam” against Greene. In fact, Twitter feels that this comparison has had the opposite effect.

It’s only Wednesday, and it sure feels like a Friday on Twitter.

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Morgan Wallen’s Record Label Suspended His Contract Following His Use Of A Racial Slur

Despite his record Dangerous: The Double Album topping the Billboard 200 albums chart for the third consecutive week, Morgan Wallen recently made a career-halting move. The country singer was caught using a racial slur in a video, which has resulted in him being dropped from his record label “indefinitely.”

TMZ first got a hold of a video of Wallen coming home from a drunken night in Nashville, Tennessee. After making a loud scene outside his house, a neighbor across the street began recording Wallen and his crew. Before Wallen stumbled into his home, he refers to one of his friends as a “p*ssy ass n*****.” The story went viral and fans and country singers alike admonished Wallen’s language.

Eventually, Wallen’s label Big Loud Records caught wind of the controversy and resolved to cut ties with the singer. Announcing their decision in a statement, Big Loud Records reprimanded Wallen, saying his behavior “will not be tolerated” by them: “In the wake of recent events, Big Loud Records has made the decision to suspend Morgan Wallen’s recording contract indefinitely. Republic Records fully supports Big Loud’s decision and agrees such behavior will not be tolerated.”

After TMZ got a hold of the video, Wallen offered an apology and promised to “do better” in the future. “I’m embarrassed and sorry. I used an unacceptable and inappropriate racial slur that I wish I could take back,” he said. “There are no excuses to use this type of language, ever. I want to sincerely apologize for using the word. I promise to do better.”

Read Big Loud Records’ full statement above.

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Young Dolph And Key Glock’s ‘Green Light’ Video Turns A Bus Route Into A Paper Route

Memphis rap veteran Young Dolph and his Paper Route Empire protege Key Glock turn public transportation into the venue for their private enterprise in the low-key video for “Green Light,” the latest single from the deluxe version of Dolph’s 2020 album Rich Slave. The two rappers swap luxury automobiles for a city bus in the video, rapping as they ride the route and dropping off enigmatic duffle bags at each stop.

Dolph and Key Glock have built truly impeccable chemistry over the past two years, culminating in their Dum And Dummer mixtape in 2019 and continuing throughout the next year on the three projects they collectively released in 2020, Dolph’s Rich Slave, and Glock’s Yellow Tape and Son Of A Gun. The pandemic didn’t slow up their hustle one bit as they continued to drop off single after single throughout the year. Most recently, the two showed off their chemistry in the video for “No Sense” in November, and Glock kicked off 2021 with his “Off The Porch” video.

We might very well see much more of both throughout the year; aside from being relentlessly productive as a duo, they’re also in demand as feature artists. Fellow Tennesseean Isaiah Rashad insisted that he wouldn’t release his own album — which is rumored to have a tentative 2021 release date — until he gets Dolph on a song.

Watch Young Dolph and Key Glock’s “Green Light” video above.

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Does The Synopsis For James Gunn’s ‘The Suicide Squad’ Hint At A Batman Connection?

While James Gunn has been sharing lots of details about his all-star line-up for The Suicide Squad, which is not entirely a reboot, but not really a sequel to David Ayer’s first film about the villainous team, not much has been revealed about the plot. That’s all changed, thanks to Warner Bros. unveiling the official synopsis for Gunn’s highly-anticipated jaunt through the DC Comics universe, and it looks like the writer/director will be mining a very interesting location with ties to Batman.

Here’s the full synopsis via Warner Bros:

Welcome to hell–a.k.a. Belle Reve, the prison with the highest mortality rate in the US of A. Where the worst Super-Villains are kept and where they will do anything to get out—even join the super-secret, super-shady Task Force X. Today’s do-or-die assignment? Assemble a collection of cons, including Bloodsport, Peacemaker, Captain Boomerang, Ratcatcher 2, Savant, King Shark, Blackguard, Javelin and everyone’s favorite psycho, Harley Quinn. Then arm them heavily and drop them (literally) on theremote, enemy-infused island of Corto Maltese. Trekking through a jungle teeming with militant adversaries and guerrilla forces at every turn, the Squad is on a search-and-destroy mission with only Colonel Rick Flag on the ground to make them behave…and Amanda Waller’s government techies in their ears, tracking their every movement. And as always, one wrong move and they’re dead (whether at the hands of their opponents, a teammate, or Waller herself). If anyone’s laying down bets, the smart money is against them—all of them.

If the name Corto Maltese sounds familiar, it’s where Kim Basinger’s Vicki Vale previously worked as a photojournalist before moving to Gotham City in Tim Burton’s Batman starring Michael Keaton. Considering Keaton is returning to his iconic role as the Dark Knight in The Flash solo movie, dropping Corto Maltese into The Suicide Squad is an intriguing choice that could just be a coincidence, or a sign that the new batch of DCEU films aren’t so disconnected after all.

As for its comic book history, the fictional island off of the coast of South America made its first appearance in Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns where Superman was ordered by the U.S. government to stop a nuclear attack before being sent to put down Batman’s raging war on crime in Gotham City. The Dark Knight Returns storyline was loosely adapted for Zack Snyder’s Batman V Superman, which makes Corto Maltese popping up in The Suicide Squad all the more interesting.

(Via CBR)

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Nickelodeon Will Get Back Into The NFL Game With A Collection Of Super Bowl Programming

One of the more pleasant surprises of 2021 so far came when Nickelodeon got its own broadcast of the NFL playoff game between the New Orleans Saints and the Chicago Bears. The Saints came out on top, but the big story of the broadcast was that Nickelodeon did such a good job that people actively sought it out and wanted to see this happen again.

The bad news is that we’re not getting a full-blown Nickelodeon Super Bowl broadcast on Sunday, but we are going to get some fun stuff from the network in the lead-up to the showdown between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Kansas City Chiefs. Starting on Friday evening at 8 p.m. EST, Nickelodeon will air a preview show called the Nickelodeon Super Duper Super Bowl Pregame Spectacular, hosted by Gabrielle Nevaeh Green and Lex Lumpkin, both of whom were major parts of the game broadcast earlier in the year. Per a release, “the show will feature Super Bowl fun facts, ‘Nick-ified’ season highlights and predictions of this year’s winning team with help from special guests.”

The rest of the weekend will include a handful of Nick-inspired ways to cover the game. CBS’ Super Bowl pregame show will include a Nickelodeon segment with Green and Lumpkin, while CBS Sports Network will air a number of highlights from the first half of the game that get the Nick treatment as presented by Nate Burleson, whose appearance in the booth during the Saints-Bears broadcast drew plenty of praise.

Perhaps we’ll get a full Nickelodeon version of the Super Bowl the next time CBS has broadcast rights for the game. In the meantime, we have this, and hopefully whomever wins the game’s MVP award can get covered in slime or something.

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Finneas Reveals That Billie Eilish’s Sophomore Album Is ‘Almost Done’

Billie Eilish has not been secretive about the status of her highly-anticipated sophomore album. The singer recently teased a tracklist on her social media, pointing to an album that’s a few tracks longer than her debut. While she has yet to share when the record is expected to be released, her brother/producer Finneas has just revealed that they’re close to being finished.

Finneas sat down with James Corden on The Late Late Show to talk about his music and his work on Eilish’s impending release. Talking about how the album is “almost done,” Finneas said:

“She’s said it, so I’m not spilling the beans for her, but we are working really hard on her second album. It’s actually almost done, which we’re really excited about. She’s the only person I’ve worked with in-person in the whole year. So everything else has been over Zoom. Someone will send me a vocal of theirs, I’ll produce it and send it back to them. So, it’s all been this virtual world of that. But Billie and I have actually been holed up working together.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Finneas discussed the time he and Eilish performed at Jared Leto’s house before they had experienced their breakout moment: “I remember it very clearly, I was very nervous. It was May of 2017 and Jared is one of those dudes who is very aware of what’s going on. He’s very early, he’s an early adopter of everything. He’s one of those dues where, anytime you are just discovering something, he’s like, ‘I’ve been investigating this for five years.’ […] We went a little bit early to set up our stuff, which at the time was toys — basically legos. We went to his house, which is like a set from a Stanley Kubrick film. You can’t quite imagine how anyone is ever cozy there. It’s definitely haunted. It’s one of those houses that absolutely has ghosts in it. But he’s always been very generous to the two of us, given us great advice.

Watch Finneas’ interview on Corden above.